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As [ profile] etrangere said in someone else's post about this subject: "ironic icon is ironic" with regards to the icon adorning this post.

Making the rounds in the X-Men:First Class fandom is a fanart with the captions:
Charles as a British Airborne Medic
Erik as a German SS Officer [...]

Uh, yeah.

You can view the fanart and the artist's explanation as to their motivation in drawing it here.
ETA: Unsurprisingly, the artist has locked their post. Screenshot, because this shit should not be covered up.

ETA: Reading this person's replies to some of the critical comments on their work makes it clear that they have no idea that what they did was problematic. So, if you're going to read the comments, be prepared for more fail.

In the post the artist goes on to say that when they posted the fanart on tumblr they were butchered in the comments, and that if anyone hates the idea of Erik in an SS Officer uniform we should assume that he's undercover.
(Emphasis mine)

Well, thanks for clearing that up! That makes the entire thing absolutely okay and not questionable at all!


Look, the whole thing is in bad taste, for a variety of reasons. For me, the idea of putting a Jewish man in a Nazi uniform and telling anyone who may be offended by it to pretend he's a not actually a Nazi, is grossly insensitive.

There is a history, it's dark and fucked up, it has an aftermath that is hardly spoken outside of Europe and outside of specific communities that may or may not have remained in Europe after the second world war.

What the artist does in their post is an attempt to cover their own ass. They knew, very well, that they were posting a contentious piece of work, which, once posted is open to criticism and the aforementioned contention.

I don't want to pretend that Erik is in an SS Officer's uniform for "good reason". There is, in fact, no "good" reason. No matter how you construe the scenario, Erik in a Nazi uniform is a fucked up notion. No matter what "AU" you imagine that creates a sequence of events which leads to the logical conclusion of Erik wearing a Nazi uniform, it is still a reflection of a history and a reality that happened.

The fetishising of Nazism is a kink which can (ETA: with a great many disclaims and qualifications, if you ask me) be filed under "your kink is not my kink and that's okay". There is still a social and historical context which is open for discussion when fanworks start dabbling in this history which still affects me as a gay Jewish person to a degree that is at times hard to describe.

Not to mention that this dabbling shows how much disregard they have for the subject, the history and the people who are still affected by the fact that the second world war's ramifications are still felt throughout the world.

Date: 2012-02-24 04:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] heavenscalyx
The fetishising of Nazism is a kink which can be filed under "your kink is not my kink and that's okay".

You're more generous than I am, or perhaps I've just gotten old and intolerant: I don't think the fetishization of Nazism is okay in any situation or sense. There's some line in my head that it crosses, the same line serial killer fetishization crosses, that somehow, chan and twincest and the like do not. Nazism in particular, being that it is currently a political issue and has been for the lifetimes of our parents and grandparents and great-grandparents, and has been and still is the cause of death and torment for millions of people, just blows out my ability to say it's okay. There's a reason it's illegal in many countries in Europe. And there's a reason that there are Austrians who come to this country in order to roleplay Nazis in recreation events, and that reason is just plain old hatred.

There are other uniforms to fetishize that are less harmful to people, to history, and to current culture. FFS, these people need to get a state trooper fetish.

Date: 2012-02-24 05:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] heavenscalyx
Sorry, I was mostly reacting to the existence of these people and the fact that they spray their ids all over the world.

And that's what it comes down to, I think. Everyone thinks they have the right to show their asses ids in the name of "art" or "literature" or whatever. And, yes, I have the right not to read and/or look at their work. But the nature of the collective unconscious Internet is that exhibitionism has its ways of getting around (cf, Rep Weiner's weiner photo), and, yes, exactly, the insensitivity of just putting it out there, where it will hurt people in really fundamental ways, and especially of trampling all over a well-established point in a fandom like Magneto's history, is beyond appalling.

Date: 2012-02-24 05:16 pm (UTC)
ajnabieh: Happy woman with broom: FIGHT ALL THE OPPRESSIONS; same woman, dejected, "Fight ALL the oppresssions?" (ALL the oppressions?)
From: [personal profile] ajnabieh
The face I am making right now, it is hard to render in type.

Date: 2012-02-24 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] amethystfirefly

The stupidity of fandom never ceases to amaze me.

Date: 2012-02-25 03:33 am (UTC)
theleaveswant: text "make something beautiful" on battered cardboard sign in red, black, and white (lisbeth gonna fuck you up)
From: [personal profile] theleaveswant
. . . fer fuckssake, really? That is just . . . yipes.


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June 2015

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V and Justice

V: Ah, I was forgetting that we are not properly introduced. I do not have a name. You can call me V. Madam Justice...this is V. V... this is Madam Justice. hello, Madam Justice.

Justice: Good evening, V.

V: There. Now we know each other. Actually, I've been a fan of yours for quite some time. Oh, I know what you're thinking...

Justice: The poor boy has a crush on adolescent fatuation.

V: I beg your pardon, Madam. It isn't like that at all. I've long admired you...albeit only from a distance. I used to stare at you from the streets below when I was a child. I'd say to my father, "Who is that lady?" And he'd say "That's Madam Justice." And I'd say "Isn't she pretty."

V: Please don't think it was merely physical. I know you're not that sort of girl. No, I loved you as a person. As an ideal.

Justice: What? V! For shame! You have betrayed me for some harlot, some vain and pouting hussy with painted lips and a knowing smile!

V: I, Madam? I beg to differ! It was your infidelity that drove me to her arms!

V: Ah-ha! That surprised you, didn't it? You thought I didn't know about your little fling. But I do. I know everything! Frankly, I wasn't surprised when I found out. You always did have an eye for a man in uniform.

Justice: Uniform? Why I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about. It was always you, V. You were the only one...

V: Liar! Slut! Whore! Deny that you let him have his way with you, him with his armbands and jackboots!

V: Well? Cat got your tongue? I though as much.

V: Very well. So you stand revealed at last. you are no longer my justice. You are his justice now. You have bedded another.

Justice: Sob! Choke! Wh-who is she, V? What is her name?

V: Her name is Anarchy. And she has taught me more as a mistress than you ever did! She has taught me that justice is meaningless without freedom. She is honest. She makes no promises and breaks none. Unlike you, Jezebel. I used to wonder why you could never look me in the eye. Now I know. So good bye, dear lady. I would be saddened by our parting even now, save that you are no longer the woman I once loved.


-"V for Vendetta"


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