On Being Queer in Fandom
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eumeliaThis post touches an important pan-fandom subject and as such I think it should be read far and wide, so please, spread this link around! Thank you in advance.
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verasteine has written a parallel post of her own regarding being straight in fandom.
Something has been weighing on my mind for a while now.
It’s not a new thought, in fact I’ve written and discussed this before, because it is a pervasive issue and it touches me again and again in fandom.
Slash fandom is not a place without problems, this we all know, as fans, but this one particular issue is one which I’m finding harder and harder to let go as time goes by and I’m wondering if other fannish queers and/or queer fans feel it as well.
I’d like to state that I’m very aware of how problematic the use of “queer” is as a word – because while I personally identify with it strongly, it is a word with a traumatic past and not every QUILTBAG person sees it as a reclaimed word, as such, please bear with me regarding its use in this post.
Things are not as they once were, over the past decade the media landscape has changed in a way I still find hard to describe, I’m sure you who are older than I feel this even more acutely.
I don’t want to talk about the canon queer characters, relationship and storylines, because you can critique those from here to high heaven from our perspective and that has been done.
I want to talk and ask you, my fellow queer fans, about the ambivalent feeling I get from slash fandom as a queer fan.
Slash isn’t queer fiction, but it is queered fiction and a lot of the time, the idea that gay people exist within a larger cultural context is either forgotten or exploited. Forgotten in the sense that a lot of stories write the two men as though there isn’t an entire gay history and culture that informs on how these relationships are constructed.
And they are exploited in the sense that some aspects of gay culture are used to differentiate these two guys from those other queers, because they are the strange and the freakish, whereas the two guys are in love.
There are of course the instances in which authors try to be inclusive of queer culture, but due to the stereotypical way it is depicted in the media the image of effeminate men being “less than” masculine men gets perpetuated in fic.
The coming out process and the whole notion of being queer in public is, at times, reductive and lacking in the narrative complexity that informs our own queer identities. Not to mention the use of the work “queer” itself without any acknowledgment that hey, for a lot of these guys, it would as bad as the f-word (no, not “fuck” or “fellation”).
There are times where I will be thrown out of a fic that deals with homophobia, but succumbs to gender stereotypes, because the relationship becomes yet another reflection of heterosexual and heteronormative models, only with two dicks.
And of course, the ever popular of putting “slash” or “m/m sex” in the warning part of the header.
There are other issues and other instances, some of them too numerous to recount, and yes, fandom can’t but reflect the larger straight assuming culture from which it emerges. But QUEER PEOPLE EXIST in slash fandom and I’d like to hear our voices with regards to how these narratives and stories are written. Because even though this isn’t gay fiction, I am a part of this creative and transformative culture that takes from my sexual culture and doesn’t seem to realize that that is what it does.
Do other queer fans and/or fannish queer fans feel this way? Are there areas in slash fandom you feel more welcome and included? What other issues have you felt that corresponds with being queer in fandom, if at all?
verasteine has written a parallel post of her own regarding being straight in fandom.Something has been weighing on my mind for a while now.
It’s not a new thought, in fact I’ve written and discussed this before, because it is a pervasive issue and it touches me again and again in fandom.
Slash fandom is not a place without problems, this we all know, as fans, but this one particular issue is one which I’m finding harder and harder to let go as time goes by and I’m wondering if other fannish queers and/or queer fans feel it as well.
I’d like to state that I’m very aware of how problematic the use of “queer” is as a word – because while I personally identify with it strongly, it is a word with a traumatic past and not every QUILTBAG person sees it as a reclaimed word, as such, please bear with me regarding its use in this post.
Things are not as they once were, over the past decade the media landscape has changed in a way I still find hard to describe, I’m sure you who are older than I feel this even more acutely.
I don’t want to talk about the canon queer characters, relationship and storylines, because you can critique those from here to high heaven from our perspective and that has been done.
I want to talk and ask you, my fellow queer fans, about the ambivalent feeling I get from slash fandom as a queer fan.
Slash isn’t queer fiction, but it is queered fiction and a lot of the time, the idea that gay people exist within a larger cultural context is either forgotten or exploited. Forgotten in the sense that a lot of stories write the two men as though there isn’t an entire gay history and culture that informs on how these relationships are constructed.
And they are exploited in the sense that some aspects of gay culture are used to differentiate these two guys from those other queers, because they are the strange and the freakish, whereas the two guys are in love.
There are of course the instances in which authors try to be inclusive of queer culture, but due to the stereotypical way it is depicted in the media the image of effeminate men being “less than” masculine men gets perpetuated in fic.
The coming out process and the whole notion of being queer in public is, at times, reductive and lacking in the narrative complexity that informs our own queer identities. Not to mention the use of the work “queer” itself without any acknowledgment that hey, for a lot of these guys, it would as bad as the f-word (no, not “fuck” or “fellation”).
There are times where I will be thrown out of a fic that deals with homophobia, but succumbs to gender stereotypes, because the relationship becomes yet another reflection of heterosexual and heteronormative models, only with two dicks.
And of course, the ever popular of putting “slash” or “m/m sex” in the warning part of the header.
There are other issues and other instances, some of them too numerous to recount, and yes, fandom can’t but reflect the larger straight assuming culture from which it emerges. But QUEER PEOPLE EXIST in slash fandom and I’d like to hear our voices with regards to how these narratives and stories are written. Because even though this isn’t gay fiction, I am a part of this creative and transformative culture that takes from my sexual culture and doesn’t seem to realize that that is what it does.
Do other queer fans and/or fannish queer fans feel this way? Are there areas in slash fandom you feel more welcome and included? What other issues have you felt that corresponds with being queer in fandom, if at all?
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Date: 2012-01-18 06:10 am (UTC)I'm personally interested in more genres than SFF, but I agree with your points about genre playing a major role in the kinds of queer fiction queer genre fans want to read (naturalistic litfic in a modern setting is well down below non-fiction, epic fantasy, space opera, mysteries, and swashbuckling costume drama on the list of "things I'm going to want to buy from a bookstore") and about real life "gay history and culture" not applying equally to all fandoms' canons, especially when those canons are second-world fantasy settings or the distant future and the societies being depicted are completely made up.
I also think that fanfiction ought to be considered as something slightly separate from pro fiction with queer characters, in that fanfic authors have to work with the original canon (for a value of "work with" that can include "telling canon to go fuck itself" if we feel like it, but reacting against canon is still being influenced by it) while professional/original fiction writers don't have that limitation.
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Date: 2012-01-19 04:23 pm (UTC)I would argue that pro writers are often influenced by and reacting to pre-existing works of pro fic -- that's different in magnitude/scope from fan fict writers re/vising (or not!) the canon, but it's on a spectrum--and of course some professionally published fics are transformative (parody) (THE WIND DONE GONE! THE WIDE SARGASSO SEA), but even beyond those obvious examples, "reacting against genre conventions while still being influenced by it" is a real thing (despite the idea, esp. in the anti-fanfic circles that "original" fic is totally pristine, new, original never thought of before--which is SO not true).
I teach creative writing (and allow fanfic) but even those students who have never heard of fan fic start by writing incredibly derivative works based on what they're read....they're not pro authors, but I bet every pro author starts out more or less the same way!