Today I saw...
Dec. 21st, 2010 11:57 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
"Slash, drug use, torture..." in the Warnings section of the header of a Sherlock fic.
I have the story open in a different tab and I'll probably read it later on, but damn, I contemplated not bothering with it.
As I write this, a few other stories have appeared on my list containing the warnings "M/M Kiss" and "There will be slashy sex"
I know, that it appears petty, possibly insulting, to equate Slash fiction with Queer lives. But I can't separate the two issues, especially when it is so acute with regards to a text (BBC's Sherlock) that I find to be one of the few actual canonically queer texts out there at the moment.
rm said it best in her post:
I really couldn't agree more.
What happens in non-fictional situations that actual queers live through is that this Otherness is an inherent part of our lives. I'm not even talking about the over exposure to violence and the fact that our lives are considered forfeit in many ways. To stay on topic, our representation in culture is minuscule (and demographically skewed to begin with) and when it appears it is often vilified.
When I was a kid and I began reading Slash, I discovered alternative narratives and stories based on stories I already loved. Many times, these narratives weren't even "alternative" just, you know, another way of explaining a dynamic.
When I was a kid and understood myself to be bisexual, I watched shows with the knowledge that what I saw wasn't everything there was to get. That within the lines spoken, an entire world of meaning of hidden or coded and all I had to do was expose it, or crack it.
My Slash goggles have been a major tool in my studies of literary theory, even if I was forced to remove them, they were still a part of my interpretative machine.
Slash is not just a genre (it may not be one at all), it is, as I've said before, a conscientious dynamic that manifests a homoeroticism that already exists in the canon texts, whether it's more sub-textual or less (or totally overt, like in Torchwood), because tension between characters is what happens when there's interaction.
When one writes Slash, you're writing an overt homoerotic and potentially queer event, whether there is explicit sex or not. Because a dynamic between characters, is a dynamic of identities.
When one writes Slash, you're writing about identity, you're writing about literary identities that can and do, exist outside of fiction.
"Slashy sex", i.e. Sex between two male characters, i.e. sex between two men, surprise! It happens in real life.
Not only does it happen in real life, people have been punished for it and moreover they are still punished for it, we are still paying the price of the stigma that is placed on people who commit sexual acts that are considered... wait for it... unnatural.
The connection between warning for Slash (as a dynamic of identities in fanworks) and the experience of homophobia by gay people is connected. Not only is it connected, it cannot help but have a negative effect and affect of queer people who are consumers and producers of culture.
Sherlock is a queer text, because it deals with and manifests dynamics of marginalised characters - Sherlock specifically (and obviously) and John to a lesser effect, but still, John, as a veteran of an unpopular war and a person who has experienced war-fare and trauma, those experiences also marginalise him, but we as a culture, have better tools with which to understand John as human.
Sherlock, not so much.
When you warn for Slash, you're warning for Queer. When you warn for Queer, it is implicit that Queer identity and dynamic is dangerous to those identities that are habitually considered "normal" and "safe".
Just like 30-40 years ago, when Slash zines were more marginal and underground, we as consumers and producers of text and textual dialogue, were also marginal and underground.
Gay liberation and Queer culture have come a long way in terms of visibility and in many ways perpetrating and perpetuating homophobia is worse today because we are no longer invisible and we can't be ignored and we have shouldn't be vilified and told to "wait for change".
Things have changed and to see this kind of ignorance of the meaning of the word "Warning", the implications of putting Slash there and ignoring the fact that deciding to ignore queer persepctives on Slash and fandom in general is pandering to homophobia (at best).
I'm not asking for a safe place. I don't consider fandom a safe place nor should it be. But alienating those who want to participate and don't bother to fix a problem that is really so easy to fix, because "other people's feelings will be hurt" is disingenuous.
I may talk about this some more, later.
I have the story open in a different tab and I'll probably read it later on, but damn, I contemplated not bothering with it.
As I write this, a few other stories have appeared on my list containing the warnings "M/M Kiss" and "There will be slashy sex"
I know, that it appears petty, possibly insulting, to equate Slash fiction with Queer lives. But I can't separate the two issues, especially when it is so acute with regards to a text (BBC's Sherlock) that I find to be one of the few actual canonically queer texts out there at the moment.
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The queering of Sherlock. By which I do not mean that I see Sherlock as gay, bisexual, omnisexual or ace. I don't know. In fact, if the show presented me with a heterosexual Sherlock, and did so credibly, I could get on board with that too, without a problem, because it wouldn't make Sherlock any less queer in the literary sense.
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There is an inherent "other" about him in regards to his instinctive presentation of whatever his sexuality may be, and it is recognized by people who see him, both in the audience and in the narrative. Even a theoretically heterosexual Sherlock is, in this presentation, still queered.
I really couldn't agree more.
What happens in non-fictional situations that actual queers live through is that this Otherness is an inherent part of our lives. I'm not even talking about the over exposure to violence and the fact that our lives are considered forfeit in many ways. To stay on topic, our representation in culture is minuscule (and demographically skewed to begin with) and when it appears it is often vilified.
When I was a kid and I began reading Slash, I discovered alternative narratives and stories based on stories I already loved. Many times, these narratives weren't even "alternative" just, you know, another way of explaining a dynamic.
When I was a kid and understood myself to be bisexual, I watched shows with the knowledge that what I saw wasn't everything there was to get. That within the lines spoken, an entire world of meaning of hidden or coded and all I had to do was expose it, or crack it.
My Slash goggles have been a major tool in my studies of literary theory, even if I was forced to remove them, they were still a part of my interpretative machine.
Slash is not just a genre (it may not be one at all), it is, as I've said before, a conscientious dynamic that manifests a homoeroticism that already exists in the canon texts, whether it's more sub-textual or less (or totally overt, like in Torchwood), because tension between characters is what happens when there's interaction.
When one writes Slash, you're writing an overt homoerotic and potentially queer event, whether there is explicit sex or not. Because a dynamic between characters, is a dynamic of identities.
When one writes Slash, you're writing about identity, you're writing about literary identities that can and do, exist outside of fiction.
"Slashy sex", i.e. Sex between two male characters, i.e. sex between two men, surprise! It happens in real life.
Not only does it happen in real life, people have been punished for it and moreover they are still punished for it, we are still paying the price of the stigma that is placed on people who commit sexual acts that are considered... wait for it... unnatural.
The connection between warning for Slash (as a dynamic of identities in fanworks) and the experience of homophobia by gay people is connected. Not only is it connected, it cannot help but have a negative effect and affect of queer people who are consumers and producers of culture.
Sherlock is a queer text, because it deals with and manifests dynamics of marginalised characters - Sherlock specifically (and obviously) and John to a lesser effect, but still, John, as a veteran of an unpopular war and a person who has experienced war-fare and trauma, those experiences also marginalise him, but we as a culture, have better tools with which to understand John as human.
Sherlock, not so much.
When you warn for Slash, you're warning for Queer. When you warn for Queer, it is implicit that Queer identity and dynamic is dangerous to those identities that are habitually considered "normal" and "safe".
Just like 30-40 years ago, when Slash zines were more marginal and underground, we as consumers and producers of text and textual dialogue, were also marginal and underground.
Gay liberation and Queer culture have come a long way in terms of visibility and in many ways perpetrating and perpetuating homophobia is worse today because we are no longer invisible and we can't be ignored and we have shouldn't be vilified and told to "wait for change".
Things have changed and to see this kind of ignorance of the meaning of the word "Warning", the implications of putting Slash there and ignoring the fact that deciding to ignore queer persepctives on Slash and fandom in general is pandering to homophobia (at best).
I'm not asking for a safe place. I don't consider fandom a safe place nor should it be. But alienating those who want to participate and don't bother to fix a problem that is really so easy to fix, because "other people's feelings will be hurt" is disingenuous.
I may talk about this some more, later.
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Date: 2010-12-21 12:51 pm (UTC)In any case, I feel you on this issue. In addition to the political ramifications of warning for slash in general, it's ridiculous to warn for slash or m/m sex on a slash comm. "Warning! I am going to write what you wanted to read when you came here! If you don't know what that means, OMG!"
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Date: 2010-12-21 07:11 pm (UTC)I'm really boggled at the phenomenon in this fandom. Just, what?!
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Date: 2010-12-21 09:52 pm (UTC)I'll tell you--I stopped warning for slash when someone on my flist said, "If you warn for slash, you are warning for queerness and that hurts me as a queer person." She didn't have to say anything more than that! I do warn for graphic sexual description, because I have at least one asexual (acey?) reader who won't want to see anything that has that stuff in it.
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Date: 2010-12-21 09:59 pm (UTC)You're a clever and perceptive and receptive person! Hey, warning for explicit material and such is a-okay. I like to know what to expect in fics, but warning for queer content as opposed to explicit (or other kinds of content that needs to be labelled) are two very different animals, which I'm sure you know.
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Date: 2010-12-21 06:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-12-21 07:12 pm (UTC)I'd be happy to discuss the notion of normalcy and Queer.
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Date: 2010-12-23 08:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-12-21 08:38 pm (UTC)Especially with Sherlock Holmes. The man was written to be deliberately orthogonal to the society he was in, and to the methods of the police which he routinely shows up as inept or insufficient. It is part of his identity. May as well warn for "spectacular deductive reasoning" for all the people who want their heroes dumb.
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Date: 2010-12-21 08:42 pm (UTC)