Replacing "Shag" with "Screw"

[eumelia]

*weeps*

The thing that frustrates me the most about all this, is that I will watch it.

I would have watched a UK based Season 4 sans Ianto without feeling any qualms.

If it does in fact produce episodes in America I will watch it. Very likely with something a kin to fangrrl enthusiasm.

I fear though, that FOX will take all that is good about Tochwood - the relationship stuff (which was weird and complicated and not at all clear cut as to what everyone felt towards one another), the queer sexuality, the dark character arcs (Cyberwoman made people laugh? Seriously?!) and, well, UK sensibility.
Welsh sensibility.
That understated equanimity that comes from being so elegantly arrogant it gets you into tight spots just so you can ingeniously get out of them!

Tell me, did James Bond have to move to the CIA in order to be the coolest man alive?
He did not!
Why does Torchwood, created out of the Doctor's stupidity and hubris, have to move across the pond in order to be "significant" to entertainment?

Yeah, I'm an Anglophile, I fully admit that, perhaps it comes from being a colonialist myself.

Britannica is no less authentic entertainment than Americana.

That, and I hate FOX.

They will make Jack into a womaniser rather than the equal opportunity flirt/shagger that he is!

*stomps foot!*

Comments

[ayalanetzer.livejournal.com]

Word. :(

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

*Sigh*

:(

[svollga.livejournal.com]

Most of all, I dislike the idea of Jack moving to US (and becoming a sterilized playboy with a standart pretty girl as a love interest). I would actually prefer to see UNIT series, or something about Torchwood 4 being suddenly found in USA, or whatever. Something entirely different, with different cast and rules.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

I agree that the story should be something ELSE, not a rehash of the same idea.

The Office did that and turned out to be quite good in the US, but the casting and writers are really good, and it was allowed time to develop. (I like the UK version as well.)

Jack is an omnisexual! That should never, ever change. Putting him in a quaint little category would be like turning the Doctor into a dermatologist with a sonic blackhead extractor.

[svollga.livejournal.com]

Actually, I don't even know how Torchwood can happen in the US, it's British colonial institution, created by the Queen, for god's sake! For Queen and country, and the Great British Empire, and so on.
And filming something about UK in the US is weird.

I suppose the only TV-show UK-to-US remake I've seen is Queer as Folk, and I actually like both versions, each in a very different way. I've also seen the last episode of Life on Mars US. Had a good long painful laugh. So I suppose it all depends on the writers and development.

Jack is an omnisexual - WORD!
If they do something to the only one character I've ever seen who I can identify with in a sphere of sexual orientation and aestetic sense, THEN I will really cry. (Because Jack is the only relatively young, good-looking, successful character who showed sexual attraction to not only any gender of species, but also all ages and types of people.)

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

If they do something to the only one character I've ever seen who I can identify with in a sphere of sexual orientation and aestetic sense, THEN I will really cry.

Me too. I LOVE this character so much!

I can handwave the "British institution" thing; the British have embassies everywhere, so I can see Torchwood 4 as an international team. James Bond goes everywhere, though he still works for Her Majesty/MI-6. :)

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Both of you said what I wanted to say!

[lilacsigil.livejournal.com]

Cyberwoman was hilarious! Actually, I find pretty much all of Torchwood hilarious - and it makes the dark parts that much darker. I would be extremely surprised if Fox manages anything good at all out of it, because the crackiness and the darkness go together. If they set out to make something *different*, that might work. But an Americanised, Fox-ised transplant? No.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

I'm not saying I didn't laugh! I did! But yes, that very fine line between the tragedy and the comedy there (the ridiculousness of the Cyberwoman's "suit" and the really creepy liminal thing that she was, was jarring and gave me nightmares!)

[bitter-moss.livejournal.com]

Agreed =/.

[malle-babbe.livejournal.com]

I wonder if this version of Torchwood would actually be the original idea that RTD had w/o the alterations to make it fit into the Who universe.

I think the essence of what made me love Torchwood was best put in this post (http://crepe-suzettes.livejournal.com/1441.html#cutid1), which was a review of "They Keep Killing Suzie". A gang of misfits saving the world in spite of themselves... The first season of Torchwood makes a lot more sense if Cardiff was the place where the London office sent all of there screw-ups, who then became the front line after Canary Wharf went boom.

I also have to put a vote in for keeping Jack as he is now, and not for "crazy yaoi fangirl" reasons. Jack is a breakthrough character in SF, and I'd hate for that to be lost.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the link, I probably read it about a year or so ago, when I started lurking and getting involved in fandom.

I think it would have to have no connection to the Whoniverse - in that case how would they explain Jack.

Oof, very depressing thoughts.