(un)Holy War(?)

[eumelia]

Let's get a few things straight shall we.

Arrogance?
Israel, check.
Hamas, check.

Disregarding civilians life?
Hamas, check.
Israel, check.

Using said civilian life in order to push forward an aggressive militant agenda?
Israel, check.
Hamas, check.

Hawkish propaganda?
Hamas, check.
Israel, check.

I could go on, but really to what end?
The really big, huge, flippin' enormous difference between Hamas and Israel?
Israel has way, waaaaay bigger guns and are using them with impunity and immunity.
Hamas is calling for suicide bombing because those are the weapons they have.

I think Hamas are arrogant, fanatical abusers.
Then again, I think much the same about the Israeli government.

Thing is, you can twist this around all you want, and try to create a symmetrical situation. It's not.
There is, however, a deeper more ethical issue.
Israel controls all the borders (bar the one with Egypt, which *thmbs up* to you Egypt, glad to see you making a stand), seas and air of Gaza. Israel controls everything that goes in and out of Gaza... as terrible as it is, Gaza depends on Israel and Israel softly began killing the Gazans during the seige which began because the government didn't approve of Hamas being elected by the silly deluded Palestinians who simply do not understand anything other than force and violence of course.
Never mind that Hamas was Israel's equivalent to the PLO after the first Intifada and that everything is jump biting Israel back in the ass.

*sigh*
I hope this doesn't last long, for everyone's sake.
I don't know how much anyone can take of this shit.

Have I mentioned how much I hate this (un)Holy Land?

Comments

[thecityofdis.livejournal.com]

On the other hand, if this drags on for six or so years and kills maybe a million or so people between the two regions... Israel might undergo a political shift and start talking sense the way America has.

Hm. Or, further radicalize themselves and start their own suicide bombing campaigns. We can never really tell with your countrymen.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Thing is... this has been going on for eight years already.
And we know that bombarding guerrillas groups (when both sides don't give a flying fuck about civilians) only entrenches them further.

Yes, my beloved countrymen.
*weeps*

[thecityofdis.livejournal.com]

Yes, but the trading some rocket launch and running air strike excursions still doesn't translate to all-out war. I'm talking like, the way they did it in the olden days. Like invading Russia in the winter.

[danamaree.livejournal.com]

It seems like such a mess. I can't imagine what it would be like to live in a country with so much military action going on.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

It is a huge bloody mess.

I want to live in Australia of only for my problems to be the hole in the ozone layer.

[danamaree.livejournal.com]

Well, we have issues, every country does. And in a way, my country is also founded on occupation, you'll find few Australians proud of that.

But generally speaking, it's peaceful here. Our neighbours aren't that bad, although there is tension now and again. But nothing has brought about conflict (well, at least not directly).

But dude eventually things must get better in your region, it has too, I can't imagine it getting worst. I don't want to.

[qilora.livejournal.com]

thank you.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

*hugs*

[http://users.livejournal.com/_yggdrasil/]

Sorry about this bullshit :(

I however have something (http://thefreak.livejournal.com/973934.html) for you. I sniggered.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

It is such utter bullshit!

And LOL at the comic. Oh so true! I feel so bad for Will Eisner's legacy *sigh*

[shelestel.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, the assymetry goes deeper than Israel being stronger militarily, financially and politically. It is also, most notably in its internal politics, stronger culturally and morally (bear with me, I'm turning this usual right-wing argument around :). I think it is fair to say that the Israeli society is, on the whole, at least as far as one considers its Jewish population (but possibly, despite ongoing rampant discrimination, even when one thinks of the Arab and perhaps even some of the Palestinian population) more productive, more efficient and more humane than the Palestinian one. For a right-wing person this is another argument in favour of Israel's moral right to oppress the Palestinians, but in truth nothing shouts "stop!" more than this very argument. We are targeting a weak population, making it more prone to Hamas-style extremist militarism. What do we seek to achieve by making the Palestinians less united, poorer, less educated, with more PTSD? It's utterly absurd in its counter-productivity and is a point right-wing people tend to disregard, because they are not aware of the developments in psychology and psychiatry in the past century. Developments, by the way, that took place in large as a result of (the I & II World) wars and the mental problems of their survivors.
I can't help pondering if right-wing ideology is a tool for generating conflict and war, which seem to be important for the development of society, and whether the Left can only exist hand in hand with such a Right by its side (Zizek talks about this). Does the Left itself generate enough conflict to allow for development?

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

I think one of the axioms the Left needs to demolish is the conflict=progress.
It's such a destructive way of thinking (see Destruction from the Endless of Neil Gaiman's Sandman as a really good representation of that idea).
Why must progress come out of conflict? Who said that progress can't be productive but also at a slower pace.
The fast pace of progression is what's brought humanity to where we are, great technological advances which can only be achieved by the exploitation and diminishing of Others.

But yes to the rest of what you said :)

[shelestel.livejournal.com]

The idea that the noblest thing of all is war goes vary far back, and recently to Kant (no worries, that's about the only thing I know about the guy). You see radicals on both ends engage in conflicts all the time, hoping it would bring about change. Others do get hurt in that process - others that are considered illegitimate. It does bring a change of some sort, the only question is what kind of change, and whether change is always a good thing anyway. Life itself is built on conflict even on a very biological level, and conflictless situations for some reason seem to be unstable. It's another thing that we can bring conflicts to higher cognitive orders instead of just bombing each other. Or civilians of whom many don't want to be a part of the conflict.