A Book Meme

Oct. 5th, 2008 05:43 pm
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* Grab the nearest book.
* Open the book to page 56.
* Find the fifth sentence.
* Post the text of the sentence in your journal along with these instructions if you want to.
* Don't dig for your favorite book, the cool book, or the intellectual one: pick the CLOSEST.


"She is the most beautiful of dusky Dianas and the belle of the Piccaninnies, coquettish, cold and amorous by turns: there is not a brave who would not have the wayward thing to wife, but she staves off the alter with a hatchet."

Peter Pan; childhood classic? Or Imperialist propaganda extraordinaire?
Who can tell.

I always preferred Tiger Lily to Wendy.

Date: 2008-10-05 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrina-il.livejournal.com
Well, since I grew up on a healthy diet of Soviet 50s scifi and 19th century swashbuckling novels, I vote "both".

Date: 2008-10-05 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
Ooh ooh! One of the lectures at iCon (http://www.icon.org.il/2008/) is about Sci-Fi behind the "Iron Curtain", it's on Wednesday at two if I'm not mistaken.

I keep forgetting if you'll be attending or not?

Date: 2008-10-05 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrina-il.livejournal.com
I shall be attending, yes, and I saw that lecture and was like "yeah I"m gonna give it a miss since I ALREADY KNOW ALL THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT SCIFI BEHIND THE IRON CURTAIN (i.e. that it was awesome LOL)".

Which, you know, I don't really, but it feels like going to a lecture on "going to highschool", you know? Like, been there, done that. If you are interested in the subject however (though I can't imagine why you would be) I'd strongly reccomend either hitting up the lecture or... hitting me up for a lecture LOL

Date: 2008-10-05 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
I will be attending that particular lecture.

As to why? Well sci-fi is about futurism and social commentary, more often than not, and it'd be interesting to hear learn more about that stuff about a society which I never experienced :)

Date: 2008-10-05 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrina-il.livejournal.com
Yeah, you have just summed up why contemporary American sci fi makes me froth at the mouth and well, makes me angrier than I honestly can ever articulate.

Cos I'm a scifi girl. And I grew up with scifi that was life changing, that was banned, that talked about philosophy and social commentary and gots its authors exiled. And that was scifi to me. Aaaaaaand then I find out the English speaking world defines scifi as either Star Trek or Stargate or whatever and ever since, dipping into that pond has been like living in a world where the sky is green and the water is red because WHAT. THE. FUCKING. FUCK.

Ahem. Before I go into a two page comment, I'll stop myself and say, hey, I hope you like the lecture :)

Date: 2008-10-05 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
Not... sure what I said...

Futurism and social commentary isn't what sci-fi is about?
I mean life changing books haven't been written in a while... I don't feel. The really good hard core sci-fi in the 50's, 60's and 70's, in both blocs I imagine.

Date: 2008-10-05 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrina-il.livejournal.com
Oi, sorry, I've ranted about this stuff like 4312423 times and still can't figure out how to sum it up neatly in two sentences or less (see also: inarticulate rage).

Well sci-fi is about futurism and social commentary, more often than not, and it'd be interesting to hear learn more about that stuff
I was going off of this sentence and for some reason my brain just saw that first portion and went into hyper mode or something and I thought that you thinking of scifi as a tool for social commentary + not knowing much about Russian-speaking scifi = umm... this is the point where I think my brain switched off.

I do think scifi is a great tool for social commentary. It doesn't have to be, like any genre, but it offers unique social critique opportunities that somehow didn't make it into the mainstream, imo, in the west. The treatment of scifi (as serious literature, treated with reverence) in the former USSR is not the treatment of scifi in the west (mostly an escapist genre). You can find all kinds of works on both sides of the aisle but the attitude is pricipally different, and so is the mainstream preception, and the implications of that on the material being produced and the implications of the material on the readership, and what that does to concepts like "geek" and "fandom"... anyway. I hope you enjoy the lecture, and I hope it's a good one, and if you ever wanna talk about any of that stuff, you know where I blog.

Date: 2008-10-05 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
Ah, okay.
Makes sense.

Sci-Fi as a genre was always a fave because it spoke about possibilities and human potential, but I'm very entrenched in Western sci-fi and I'm also very, very picky.

So I'm hoping the lecture will help me expand my repertoire.

Date: 2008-10-05 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nurint.livejournal.com
Funny that, just got a sentence that I noted when I passed over it the first time as well since it has so much to do with my field of study, also known as Complex Systems:

"There was no contradiction, deepest down. Complexity, yes, but not contradiction. Only connection".
- Son of a Witch, Gregory Maguire


(yes, I cheated and gave 3 sentences, only the first of which being the 5th line. But they're short!)

Date: 2008-10-05 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
I forgive.
I got an absurdly long and racist sentence.

I forgot that happened in Victorian literature.

Date: 2008-10-06 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_lux_aeterna_1/
"כאשר האסוציאציה חזקה, יש סיכוי גדול להגיע למסקנה שהאירועים הופיעו יחד לעתים קרובות."
הספר הוא "רציונליות, הוגנות, אושר" של דניאלך כהנמן
ואני מניחה שהסיבה שהוא הקרוב ביותר היא שבד"כ אני לא קוראת להנאתי ליד המחשב, אבל השתמשתי בו כרפרנס לעבודה שכתבתי לא מזמן, והוא פשוט נשאר שם.

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V and Justice

V: Ah, I was forgetting that we are not properly introduced. I do not have a name. You can call me V. Madam Justice...this is V. V... this is Madam Justice. hello, Madam Justice.

Justice: Good evening, V.

V: There. Now we know each other. Actually, I've been a fan of yours for quite some time. Oh, I know what you're thinking...

Justice: The poor boy has a crush on me...an adolescent fatuation.

V: I beg your pardon, Madam. It isn't like that at all. I've long admired you...albeit only from a distance. I used to stare at you from the streets below when I was a child. I'd say to my father, "Who is that lady?" And he'd say "That's Madam Justice." And I'd say "Isn't she pretty."

V: Please don't think it was merely physical. I know you're not that sort of girl. No, I loved you as a person. As an ideal.

Justice: What? V! For shame! You have betrayed me for some harlot, some vain and pouting hussy with painted lips and a knowing smile!

V: I, Madam? I beg to differ! It was your infidelity that drove me to her arms!

V: Ah-ha! That surprised you, didn't it? You thought I didn't know about your little fling. But I do. I know everything! Frankly, I wasn't surprised when I found out. You always did have an eye for a man in uniform.

Justice: Uniform? Why I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about. It was always you, V. You were the only one...

V: Liar! Slut! Whore! Deny that you let him have his way with you, him with his armbands and jackboots!

V: Well? Cat got your tongue? I though as much.

V: Very well. So you stand revealed at last. you are no longer my justice. You are his justice now. You have bedded another.

Justice: Sob! Choke! Wh-who is she, V? What is her name?

V: Her name is Anarchy. And she has taught me more as a mistress than you ever did! She has taught me that justice is meaningless without freedom. She is honest. She makes no promises and breaks none. Unlike you, Jezebel. I used to wonder why you could never look me in the eye. Now I know. So good bye, dear lady. I would be saddened by our parting even now, save that you are no longer the woman I once loved.

*KABOOM!*

-"V for Vendetta"

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