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Hey, remember the Mary-Jane Fiasco?

Well, it started a few days ago here (contains images which are NSFW) at Pink Raygun.

I've since read many, many commentaries on this thanks to [livejournal.com profile] fangirls_attack and I really didn't know what to add myself.
As often happens when living in a time-zone far away from the hub, I kinda missed the initial brouhaha of the Wonder Woman Body Paint Job.

Let me first state that I don't think porn is inherently bad, just like I don't think the sex industry is inherently bad.
Let me tell you what I do think is bad:
Exploitation and Objectification.
Yes, friends it's same old, same old once again and still, still it won't get into people thick heads that Women, especially Super Heroine Women are not sexual objects.
They can and usually are sexy, but they are not sexual.

Why do feminist and in this case the feminist fangrrls have to re-iterate this point time and time again!
Is it really a novelty?
Is it really so difficult to understand that women's bodies are not fucking separate from their brains and personality!.

Oh and yes, I take offense to the fact that Wonder Woman, the female Super Heroine, one of the Big DC Three, has been reduced, by Playboy, into a body paint.
It in fact, infuriates me!

Date: 2008-01-18 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elspethdixon.livejournal.com
If it were the cover of a comic, or in any way sponsored by DC, then yeah, it would be sketchy as hell (and also objectification, but that goes without saying), and I'd be seriously irritated at DC. But this is Playboy, and objectification of women is pretty much the entire reason Playboy exists. Which may be a problem in and of itself, but isn't really something you can blame the comicbook industry for.

Hey, it could be worse. She could be tied up to some kind of phallic object, like all of those Golden Age Wonder Woman covers. At least BodyPaint!Wonder Woman still has some agency, and isn't gagged and bound with her own lasso or something.

Would it be wrong/bad for me to admit that the picture is actually kind of hot?

Date: 2008-01-19 02:33 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jennem.livejournal.com
Isn't Wonder Woman and her likeness trademarked / copyrighted by DC?

And, if that's the case, then wouldn't this spread have to be authorized, in some way, by DC (assuming Playboy CYA'd)?

Date: 2008-01-19 07:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] liviapenn.livejournal.com

Yes. Over on Greg Rucka's LJ ([livejournal.com profile] ruckawriter) they made this point. DC would have had to license this. Otherwise we'd be hearing about the lawsuit already.

Date: 2008-01-19 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elspethdixon.livejournal.com
If you look closely, the bodice of the "costume" doesn't actually have the Wonder Woman "W" symbol, so I'm betting it's unauthorized. DC's probably chosing to ignore it because protesting would stick their name in news stories with "Playboy" associated with it, and draw even more attention to it.

Date: 2008-01-19 11:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jennem.livejournal.com
I seroiusly doubt DC's and WB's lawyers would agree with that thought process. Wonder Woman is trademarked. If you ignore trademark infringment it can invalidate the 'mark.

Here from Metafandom

Date: 2008-01-19 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lennoxmacbeth.livejournal.com
Would it be wrong/bad for me to admit that the picture is actually kind of hot?

I hope not, because I thought it was a great cover. They have a cute girl for once and I loved the body paint. :D

But, I guess this is why a lot of women don't see me as a woman. I knew there was a reason I have a boy-type and a girl-type self. :}
Edited Date: 2008-01-19 05:30 am (UTC)

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V and Justice

V: Ah, I was forgetting that we are not properly introduced. I do not have a name. You can call me V. Madam Justice...this is V. V... this is Madam Justice. hello, Madam Justice.

Justice: Good evening, V.

V: There. Now we know each other. Actually, I've been a fan of yours for quite some time. Oh, I know what you're thinking...

Justice: The poor boy has a crush on me...an adolescent fatuation.

V: I beg your pardon, Madam. It isn't like that at all. I've long admired you...albeit only from a distance. I used to stare at you from the streets below when I was a child. I'd say to my father, "Who is that lady?" And he'd say "That's Madam Justice." And I'd say "Isn't she pretty."

V: Please don't think it was merely physical. I know you're not that sort of girl. No, I loved you as a person. As an ideal.

Justice: What? V! For shame! You have betrayed me for some harlot, some vain and pouting hussy with painted lips and a knowing smile!

V: I, Madam? I beg to differ! It was your infidelity that drove me to her arms!

V: Ah-ha! That surprised you, didn't it? You thought I didn't know about your little fling. But I do. I know everything! Frankly, I wasn't surprised when I found out. You always did have an eye for a man in uniform.

Justice: Uniform? Why I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about. It was always you, V. You were the only one...

V: Liar! Slut! Whore! Deny that you let him have his way with you, him with his armbands and jackboots!

V: Well? Cat got your tongue? I though as much.

V: Very well. So you stand revealed at last. you are no longer my justice. You are his justice now. You have bedded another.

Justice: Sob! Choke! Wh-who is she, V? What is her name?

V: Her name is Anarchy. And she has taught me more as a mistress than you ever did! She has taught me that justice is meaningless without freedom. She is honest. She makes no promises and breaks none. Unlike you, Jezebel. I used to wonder why you could never look me in the eye. Now I know. So good bye, dear lady. I would be saddened by our parting even now, save that you are no longer the woman I once loved.

*KABOOM!*

-"V for Vendetta"

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