"The thought police would get [her] just the same"

[eumelia]

Fascist חולירות - that would be me comparing Israeli legislators to moisture sucking bacteria Fascist who want to control and our every move, thought and action.

When I saw the article and showed it to Mummy, I already knew what her reaction would be. It's the reaction of the privileged, those who take their privilege for granted, I don't blame Mummy for anything, it is a reasonable reaction, because she (and I for that matter) a law abiding citizen, so what do we have to worry about the police using the phone data base in order to catch the "real criminals".

Dissent isn't Sedition.
Talking isn't Walking.
Planning isn't Acting.
Thoughts are not Treason.

This law is wrong on so many levels, beyond those I've listed I don't even know where to begin! I mean for fuck's sake! Can no one in the fucking Knesset see where this is going?!
The military has become the political force upon which the government bases all it's decisions and no doubt the Shabak will use this nifty little law to support their own agenda.

If this isn't an infringement of civil liberties I don't know what is and I hope the Association of Civil Rights in Israel keeps a watch on this Draconian/Orwellian law.

And for those who didn't read the links, here are a few gems from the English article:

The new law will allow the police to request a judge's order to obtain such communications data on citizens, enabling the police to track a person's movements and all telephone calls. The database will include: telephone numbers, including unlisted ones; names of mobile phone subscribers; serial numbers of mobile phones; and maps of antenna locations.

And

In the case of serious crimes, the police can also receive, after court approval, a large amount of communication-related data. These would include a list of calls and messages, time and dates of all calls and messages; length of calls and size of messages; a list of the antennas and their locations used by cellular phones; and details of the payment methods used by customers.

All this data would allow the police to track a person and their calls.

Oh, and Lawyers, Journalists and other professionals who have secrecy privileges in their work won't be listed.
Bully for them, maybe the Lawyers and Journalists will write about how amoral this law is?!

Yeah, I'm pissed!

Comments

[lotus82.livejournal.com]

Jeez. Good intentions, but way to fuck up the means to the cause. I'm just as about as law-abiding as they come, but what's to stop them from checking up on everybody, just in case? That's pretty stalkerish.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Road + Good Intentions = Hell on Earth

Yeah, Authority of that kind, easily abused and will be.

[geekosaur]

You could be in the US, where the government established secret courts to give such permissions — and then bypassed them because even crony "oversight" was too much for them. (See the "telecom immunity" issue: the government forced US telecoms to break the law and now wants them protected from the lawsuits which are the only remaining recourse against their illegal activity.)

[sabotabby]

Oh, creepiness. Though I think that our current concept of privacy is about to become historical and quaint. We'll do it to ourselves, through blogs and Facebook, as much as the government will do it to us.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

I agree with you on that, but there's a big difference, at least in my mind, between information sharing and the authorities seeking it out in order to get us.

I mean, my friends and I can be prime targets for these laws, because we "fraternize" with the enemy.

It is, as you say, creepy!

[warlordkittens.livejournal.com]

ugh, i had such an infuriating argument about this with someone at the military who thought it was okay and said "you're just being selfish, thinking about yourself! this can help the greater good!" yuh huh! i nearly fucking lost it at that.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Pfft, "greater good" my jiggling peachy ass!!!