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Why teenagers (and those who are older and should really know better) walk around wearing shirts and badges bearing the face of this man.
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Who was a violent militant and caused the deaths of hundreds of people.

Personally, if I were to wear a shirt or badge with the head of a man, I'd wear his:


Those of you who have difficulty recognizing this revolutionary man: This would be Mahatma Gandhi.

Think about it.

In addition, the genocide in Darfur must be stopped.

וכמו כן, צריך לעצור את רצח העם בדרפור.

Date: 2007-07-27 12:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] geekosaur
I've seen quite a few comments and articles musing on the Che phenomenon, and how it almost represents the opposite of what he stood for (in several senses, including the idea of capitalistic mass-produced shirts...).

Date: 2007-07-27 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
Che was the quintessential rebel and "bad boy" and that appeals to teenagers, for obvious reasons.
I don't know how much Che would care about the whole Capitalism thing, it's more the distortion of his message that would probably bother him.

I freely admit that I enjoy symbols of rebellion and "bad boy/girl"-ness. - buttons and the like, but I never wore the face of a person I didn't know and it's a pity that those who wear his face don't bother to find out more about him and how his methods were less than kind.

I have a James Dean shirt I love :)

Date: 2007-07-28 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schniff2c.livejournal.com
Which is the reason my boyfriend (A proud stinkin capitalist) wears one :)

Date: 2007-07-27 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
I would imagine 100% of the people who wear the shirt or buy the poster, have absolutely no idea who Che even was, let alone what he did, where he fought, what he stood for...

Date: 2007-07-27 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
I agree, which is why I never had a shirt, button or anything to do with Che.

Like I said in my comment on top, I have a James Dean shirt and am now planning on making that picture of Gandhi into a shirt.

What do you think is a better slogan:
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" OR "There is no way to Peace, peace is the Way".

Date: 2007-07-27 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Che had the good fortune to be a very handsome man, who was killed in the prime of his youth and fame. That'll usually always guarentee people forget the actual history behind him.

*insert rant about Princess Publicity*

Both are good slogans. I wouldn't like to pick between them. Both!

Not my favourite Ghandi saying ever though. That would be the one when somebody asked him what he thought about Western Civilisation...

Date: 2007-07-27 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
"That it would be a good idea"

That would be cool:
Question: What do you think about Western Civilisation?
Gandhi answers: I think it would be a good idea.

But I need something short, something to replace "Viva Revelucion!"

Date: 2007-07-27 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aesiron.livejournal.com
I'm only superficially aware of Che Guevara's history and antics but know enough that I'd not buy merchandise with his likeness on it. I'd wear that Gandhi shirt, though.

Date: 2007-07-27 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
I'm going to get one made for myself... would you like one?

Date: 2007-07-27 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aesiron.livejournal.com
That would be neat.

Date: 2007-07-27 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yossych.livejournal.com
I, personally, like your idea, since the people with the Guevara T-Shirts are usually not communists\socialists, merely juvenile.

However, what "face" would you suggest for a sceptic agnostic with existentialist leanings who disproves of idolatry of people, symbols, causes and especially "-isms"?

Date: 2007-07-27 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
A Cubist image of Sartre :)

Date: 2007-07-27 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yossych.livejournal.com
The whole time I was typing the silent plea "No one mention Sartre, no one mention Sartre..." kept repeating itself inside my head.

I guess this is what one gets for failing to specify ALL pet peeves.


To redeem myself, however, and salvage this reply from uselessness, I would supply the obligatory unfunny Philosophy joke:



The French existentialist Jean-Paul Sartre was sitting in a cafe when a waitress approached him: "Can I get you something to drink, Monsieur Sartre?"

Sartre replied, "Yes, I'd like a cup of coffee with sugar, but no cream".

Nodding agreement, the waitress walked off to fill the order and Sartre returned to working. A few minutes later, however, the waitress returned and said, "I'm sorry, Monsieur Sartre, we are all out of cream -- how about with no milk?"

Date: 2007-07-27 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
Kierkegaard?
De Beauvoir?

Date: 2007-07-27 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yossych.livejournal.com
I guess my joke wasn't clear enough outside my own perspective.
What I meant can be simplified into a shirt bearing the slogan: "If you're reading this, stop and form your own opinion based on independent research and thought."

I just hate mindless sheep, regardless to their spoon-fed opinions or political tendencies.
And nothing says mindless sheep more than a T-shirt representing a concept with which you're unfamiliar.

Now, if people could stop saying the same slogans they are wearing and think instead, I would be really happy, but I guess things have to start small.

Date: 2007-07-27 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
*shrug* Can't help you there... I'm going with Gandhi and an appropriate quote.

I'm sure you'll figure something for yourself :)

Date: 2007-07-28 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arnavtul.livejournal.com
One of your pet peeves is Sartre? That is cool. Gotta like a person who has pet peeves which include philosophers.
How do you feel about Lacan?

Date: 2007-07-28 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yossych.livejournal.com
Once again, I have not made myself clear enough.
I have no problem with Sartre himself, but rather the immediate connection regularly made between him and the general philosophical approach for which he was known.

Very similar to attacks on a particular genre of culture\art, based on faulty misconceptions about specific representatives of said genre (i.e "Detective stories are pulp". Can one consider "The Brothers Karamazov" and "Crime and Punishment" the same type of pulp? Both are early examples of the genre, with the same motifs as present-day whodunits.)

Ha!

Date: 2007-07-28 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arnavtul.livejournal.com
You beat me to it, that was EXACTLY what I was going to say!

Date: 2007-07-28 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arnavtul.livejournal.com
I would love a ghandi shirt!

Date: 2007-07-28 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
My brother suggested a shirt with the faces of Gandhi AND Nelson Mandela.
Then I thought of the caption: "Peace-Mongers".

ha!

Date: 2007-07-28 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arnavtul.livejournal.com
Excellent slogan! You could sell those t-shirts at the t shirt markets there are in tel aviv a few times a year.

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V and Justice

V: Ah, I was forgetting that we are not properly introduced. I do not have a name. You can call me V. Madam Justice...this is V. V... this is Madam Justice. hello, Madam Justice.

Justice: Good evening, V.

V: There. Now we know each other. Actually, I've been a fan of yours for quite some time. Oh, I know what you're thinking...

Justice: The poor boy has a crush on me...an adolescent fatuation.

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Justice: What? V! For shame! You have betrayed me for some harlot, some vain and pouting hussy with painted lips and a knowing smile!

V: I, Madam? I beg to differ! It was your infidelity that drove me to her arms!

V: Ah-ha! That surprised you, didn't it? You thought I didn't know about your little fling. But I do. I know everything! Frankly, I wasn't surprised when I found out. You always did have an eye for a man in uniform.

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*KABOOM!*

-"V for Vendetta"

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