Date: 2007-04-13 04:46 pm (UTC)
I'm an "old school" fan of Buffy (I'm not involved in the fandom at all, but it's the only show I've watched start to finish), but never got into Angel. To me, even though it's pretty damn clear that Spike tries to emulate Angel in a lot of ways and pretty much ends up failing (no one can ever be as deep and angsty and serious as Angel), I never liked Angel. Spike is a bit of a pathetic guy, but at least he has a great sense of humour about it. I like that Spike fucks up and that he feels sorry for himself, rather than Angel's soul-crushing guilt, which is in a category all on its own. That he is neither a great Hero, nor a great Villain. In my mind, that makes him so much more real and appealing.

I'm certainly not arguing with the fact that Angel is a more 'successful' vampire, both with and without a soul. But when it comes to a character I'd rather engage with and think about, Spike wins hands down. I guess the argument depends on what you mean by who is 'better'. You might be arguing based on power while others are arguing based on appeal to the reader. Yeah, Angel could beat Spike's ass any day. Still doesn't mean I'd want to devote any more screen time to the guy.

I also prefer Spike's gritty, dirty style to Angel's romantic tortured Hero shtick, though obviously that's a personal preference. Boring is right.
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V and Justice

V: Ah, I was forgetting that we are not properly introduced. I do not have a name. You can call me V. Madam Justice...this is V. V... this is Madam Justice. hello, Madam Justice.

Justice: Good evening, V.

V: There. Now we know each other. Actually, I've been a fan of yours for quite some time. Oh, I know what you're thinking...

Justice: The poor boy has a crush on me...an adolescent fatuation.

V: I beg your pardon, Madam. It isn't like that at all. I've long admired you...albeit only from a distance. I used to stare at you from the streets below when I was a child. I'd say to my father, "Who is that lady?" And he'd say "That's Madam Justice." And I'd say "Isn't she pretty."

V: Please don't think it was merely physical. I know you're not that sort of girl. No, I loved you as a person. As an ideal.

Justice: What? V! For shame! You have betrayed me for some harlot, some vain and pouting hussy with painted lips and a knowing smile!

V: I, Madam? I beg to differ! It was your infidelity that drove me to her arms!

V: Ah-ha! That surprised you, didn't it? You thought I didn't know about your little fling. But I do. I know everything! Frankly, I wasn't surprised when I found out. You always did have an eye for a man in uniform.

Justice: Uniform? Why I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about. It was always you, V. You were the only one...

V: Liar! Slut! Whore! Deny that you let him have his way with you, him with his armbands and jackboots!

V: Well? Cat got your tongue? I though as much.

V: Very well. So you stand revealed at last. you are no longer my justice. You are his justice now. You have bedded another.

Justice: Sob! Choke! Wh-who is she, V? What is her name?

V: Her name is Anarchy. And she has taught me more as a mistress than you ever did! She has taught me that justice is meaningless without freedom. She is honest. She makes no promises and breaks none. Unlike you, Jezebel. I used to wonder why you could never look me in the eye. Now I know. So good bye, dear lady. I would be saddened by our parting even now, save that you are no longer the woman I once loved.

*KABOOM!*

-"V for Vendetta"

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