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Written long ago in a mental hospital, this poem has always spoken to me, especially after the Second Lebanon War.

In memory of those who dies for this country, now 61 years old. In a few hours the black melancholy that wraps itself around the population will lift and the Independence Day celebrations will commence.
I'll be avoiding the crowds and going to a late night Mangal (BBQ) with [Southern!Girl] at a friends house, in which we will eat, drink and be cynical about the whole thing.

Dulce Et Decorum Est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of disappointed shells that dropped behind.

GAS! Gas! Quick, boys!-- An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And floundering like a man in fire or lime.--
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,--
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori*
.

Wilfred Owen, 1917 (Killed in the battle of the Sambre, November 4th 1918 - a week before Armistice)

*It is sweet and proper to die for one's country

It is said that Joseph Trumpledor, as he died, uttered "Never mind, it's good to die for ones country" ("en davar, tov lamut be-at artzenu"-אין דבר, טוב למות בעד ארצנו) which is very much a paraphrase of Horace's old adage, quoted in Owen's poem.

Personally, I think that like most soldiers who die in battle he probably swore an oath and cried for his mother.

Date: 2009-04-28 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Yes, I should think he probably did cry out for his mother.

Ah, the lies old men tell the young to make them go out and commit murder.

Date: 2009-04-28 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
Well said.

Date: 2009-04-29 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hemlock-sholes.livejournal.com
It's a pity multiple eye witnesses disagree.

First of all, he did not die in battle. He was hit by a bullet (apparently he did say "Heck*, I've been hit") and died of his wounds while being brought to a medical facility. His doctor was the man who published his famous last words, which were very likely said with Horace in mind.

Deconstruction of myths is fun, but not always true.

* It was an idiosyncrasy of his that he did not swear. The only swear word which he used was עזאזל - Hell. His accent was such that "normal" Hebrew speakers couldn't tell if he was using a euphemism or not, which is why I used Heck.

Date: 2009-04-29 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Interesting, thank you.

Though it remains true that the majority of wounded soldiers do wind up crying for their mothers.

Date: 2009-04-29 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hemlock-sholes.livejournal.com
Which is why Trumpeldor is an icon and hero.

BTW - I'm aware of research which says that many wounded people call for their mothers, I wonder if it has been updated for modern, 21st century warfare or if this is something which has been bandied forth since WW2.

Date: 2009-04-30 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
I don't think it has been updated, but thinking about it, post WW2 the advent of better battlefield medicine, and the wider availability of morphine and more effective painkillers, I imagine it significantly cuts down on the distress of wounded soldiers?

Plus they tend to be evacuated faster, to better equipped hospitals, and the survival rates are much higher.

Date: 2009-04-30 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
My point wasn't to discredit Trumpledor as a hero. If indeed he died (and I'm sorry you construed me doubting the veracity of that account as saying he didn't) saying those words then in my mind he is an exception that proves the rule.
The point of this post was to try and not take at face value the glorification of death and readily accept dying for ones country as the most heroic thing that a soldier (and citizen) can do.
I think glorifying death for the nation isn't a good thing.
Trumpledor was a hero not because he said what he said at the time of his death, but because of what he did in his life. I think it would behoove us as a culture to remember the lives of those who died and not continue the discourse in which soldiers are especially more valuable because they are dead soldiers.

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V and Justice

V: Ah, I was forgetting that we are not properly introduced. I do not have a name. You can call me V. Madam Justice...this is V. V... this is Madam Justice. hello, Madam Justice.

Justice: Good evening, V.

V: There. Now we know each other. Actually, I've been a fan of yours for quite some time. Oh, I know what you're thinking...

Justice: The poor boy has a crush on me...an adolescent fatuation.

V: I beg your pardon, Madam. It isn't like that at all. I've long admired you...albeit only from a distance. I used to stare at you from the streets below when I was a child. I'd say to my father, "Who is that lady?" And he'd say "That's Madam Justice." And I'd say "Isn't she pretty."

V: Please don't think it was merely physical. I know you're not that sort of girl. No, I loved you as a person. As an ideal.

Justice: What? V! For shame! You have betrayed me for some harlot, some vain and pouting hussy with painted lips and a knowing smile!

V: I, Madam? I beg to differ! It was your infidelity that drove me to her arms!

V: Ah-ha! That surprised you, didn't it? You thought I didn't know about your little fling. But I do. I know everything! Frankly, I wasn't surprised when I found out. You always did have an eye for a man in uniform.

Justice: Uniform? Why I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about. It was always you, V. You were the only one...

V: Liar! Slut! Whore! Deny that you let him have his way with you, him with his armbands and jackboots!

V: Well? Cat got your tongue? I though as much.

V: Very well. So you stand revealed at last. you are no longer my justice. You are his justice now. You have bedded another.

Justice: Sob! Choke! Wh-who is she, V? What is her name?

V: Her name is Anarchy. And she has taught me more as a mistress than you ever did! She has taught me that justice is meaningless without freedom. She is honest. She makes no promises and breaks none. Unlike you, Jezebel. I used to wonder why you could never look me in the eye. Now I know. So good bye, dear lady. I would be saddened by our parting even now, save that you are no longer the woman I once loved.

*KABOOM!*

-"V for Vendetta"

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