Date: 2009-02-18 06:15 pm (UTC)
I love Zuky's post on PC (I just looked and I guess it was linked in that DBW post but here it is just in case, <ahref="http://www.kaichang.net/2006/11/the_sloppy_prop.html">here)

Thing is it's not just about respect--some of it is learning that what you'd grown up thinking was respectful is in fact not (such as the history of disability and its use as a delegitimizer of other people, whereby we learn that someone is considered less of a person, not able to vote or give consent for sex or ever grow up for being mentally disabled, ie a moron, and therefore it's more okay to insult someone by calling them a "moron" than a "mother fucking bitch cunt" because the latter is insulting to women and we wouldn't want to compare the two ;) )

While for many people it's specifically about not being respectful--people think they're getting straight to the point of what they're trying to say without hiding it in sensitive language, which I think is a way for many of proving "toughness"--being able to talk "frankly". I think there's often other oppression issues built in, where oppressed folks have different sensitivities to pollitical correctness concepts initiated from their own communities than those from outside, as language of many oppressed groups becomes one of the greatest focuses of difference and disruption.

But of course you can talk frankly without using oppressive language, or more accurately using oppression-conscious language--I think that's really relevant in acknowledging that different people experience different language differently. I use "queer" frequently as a preferred term to LGBTQIQ or other terms to suggest that whole community, but there is no term that many in these communities do not find insulting. When talking about someone who is fat, many people argue that the word is offensive and you should use a "nicer" word, and as many say that "fat" is offensive and that's why you *should* use that word, and as many again say it's not offensive and/or should be reclaimed.

Respectful nothing--it's conscious language, which allows it to be dynamic and constantly developing, rather than based on a static and culturally-biased concept of respect.
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V and Justice

V: Ah, I was forgetting that we are not properly introduced. I do not have a name. You can call me V. Madam Justice...this is V. V... this is Madam Justice. hello, Madam Justice.

Justice: Good evening, V.

V: There. Now we know each other. Actually, I've been a fan of yours for quite some time. Oh, I know what you're thinking...

Justice: The poor boy has a crush on me...an adolescent fatuation.

V: I beg your pardon, Madam. It isn't like that at all. I've long admired you...albeit only from a distance. I used to stare at you from the streets below when I was a child. I'd say to my father, "Who is that lady?" And he'd say "That's Madam Justice." And I'd say "Isn't she pretty."

V: Please don't think it was merely physical. I know you're not that sort of girl. No, I loved you as a person. As an ideal.

Justice: What? V! For shame! You have betrayed me for some harlot, some vain and pouting hussy with painted lips and a knowing smile!

V: I, Madam? I beg to differ! It was your infidelity that drove me to her arms!

V: Ah-ha! That surprised you, didn't it? You thought I didn't know about your little fling. But I do. I know everything! Frankly, I wasn't surprised when I found out. You always did have an eye for a man in uniform.

Justice: Uniform? Why I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about. It was always you, V. You were the only one...

V: Liar! Slut! Whore! Deny that you let him have his way with you, him with his armbands and jackboots!

V: Well? Cat got your tongue? I though as much.

V: Very well. So you stand revealed at last. you are no longer my justice. You are his justice now. You have bedded another.

Justice: Sob! Choke! Wh-who is she, V? What is her name?

V: Her name is Anarchy. And she has taught me more as a mistress than you ever did! She has taught me that justice is meaningless without freedom. She is honest. She makes no promises and breaks none. Unlike you, Jezebel. I used to wonder why you could never look me in the eye. Now I know. So good bye, dear lady. I would be saddened by our parting even now, save that you are no longer the woman I once loved.

*KABOOM!*

-"V for Vendetta"

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