See Me Be Sentimental

[eumelia]

I was looking at fandomsecrets and someone made a secret, probably in reaction to the renewed bruhaha in Torchwood Fandom.

I got really chocked up reading it.

It's also really pretty:



Clicking on the pic will take you to the thread on F!S.

As a good friend said to me when I showed 'em this secret:
It's amazing how people don't realize that by freaking out about CoE/Ianto they're actually policing queerness, not "championing" it.

All I can say to that is "YES".

Comments

[sanat.livejournal.com]

That's beautiful. This is why I try not to take labels too seriously, at least on an individual basis. Does it help you to call yourself this? Are you not sure? It's all right, hon. Just be.

[smirnoffmule.livejournal.com]

Oh bless. That's so lovely.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Self identification is an important thing and it's hard when there's no word for what you are, or when words that exist don't sit well with you, but do kind of fit.

Little boxes are little prisons.

I wish saying "I'm just me" was enough in this world. One day...

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

I got chocked up and as I read the comments (ye gads I must go to bed) I'm getting weepy.

It's absolutely brilliant.

[rm.livejournal.com]

That secret is why Fandom Secrets still matters (and why stories matter) and why people being asshats (as I happily notice no one is over there) need to shut the fuck up.

[solitary-summer.livejournal.com]

That actually makes me a bit angry; I'm only glad he got over the fandom reaction. It's a bit different for me, because I simply don't get physically attracted to people a lot, but I can definitely relate. It's complicated when you just don't know, when you don't fit any label.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'm watching the comments compile (well, I was it's late!) and I'm happy to note no haters are there.

I really hope they leave this one alone...

*sigh* still feeling weepy an hour later.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

As I wrote, no one should police queerness, there isn't one way to be queer!

I'll say what I wrote above in a comments above:
Self identification is an important thing and it's hard when there's no word for what you are, or when words that exist don't sit well with you, but do kind of fit.

Little boxes are little prisons.

I wish saying "I'm just me" was enough in this world. One day...

I hope you don't mind a c/p response!

[roga.livejournal.com]

Oh, that really is lovely.

[svollga.livejournal.com]

I saw this scene as Ianto saying that he loves only one person at a time, whatever the gender.
And also, that he knows it's hard to explain to his family because it's different from whatever they know.

But I can fully understand the person who made this secret, too.

I try to keep away from the renewed brihaha over RTD and CoE and homophobia (as well as the bruhaha over whether women can write m/m, which ignores the existence of queer women and queer people with female body so openly my teeth hurt). I've read several posts on both sides, and they all left me sad and nauseous.

CoE can be seen as the triumph of queer visibility. CoE can be seen as a repetition of usual gay tropes. Bith views aren't inherent - they are in an eye of the beholder.

[avgboojie.livejournal.com]

Awwww, Ianto. *sniff*

And what can I say, people are asses sometimes, even the best of them. Need stuff to be conclusive and absolute or they get confused. Bah. Life is not conclusive and absolute. Funny that queers should be the worst ones about it, but I guess, well, being part of a minority somehow makes some people need more conclusive stuff to feel safe in their identity and struggle. Because it's easier to struggle for something that has absolute boundries than for something which is amorphous.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Isn't it just...

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

I have been following the debates (obviously) and I'll probably write my own thing on the slash-m/m thing - I've already done my bit for TW Fandom.

I also think Ianto is specific-person-sexual, I mean his devotion to Lisa would also exemplify his attitude, no?

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Yeah, this whole thing has been a huge turf war.

[svollga.livejournal.com]

I'll probably write my own thing on the slash-m/m thing
Waiting for it! :)

Ianto is specific-person-sexual
Yes, that's what I meant in the first line. His devotion to Jack mirrors his devotion to Lisa. (It makes me a bit sad about Ianto and his ideas of self-worth, which seem to me rather law, but it makes me only more interesting a character.)

[lishablog.livejournal.com]

This secret is AWESOME.

And yeah, there are so many thing in life that people want to categorize and label, but reality is never so neat as all those little boxes. Spirituality, sexuality, identity...

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Yep, what you said.

[ayalanetzer.livejournal.com]

Awww I agree with that..
I stopped trying to figure out who I am. I dont have a life anyways for either sex.

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Hehe, true that.

Aaaaaah, exams!