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Eumelia ([personal profile] eumelia) wrote2008-09-03 11:01 pm

Occidental Domination

I come from a family of such weirdos.

A paranoid argument about Chinses economic domination, as though it would have any effect on our culture other than consumption.

The words "Occidental" and "Domination" came up a few times.

Double standard much.

To me it's just proof at the invidiousness of Capitalism and White-Supremacy.

And to think that just a few decades ago this same Occidental culture tried to exterminate us.

How fickle we are.
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[identity profile] danamaree.livejournal.com 2008-09-03 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it's something that dominates our foreign affairs and economy in Australia, and there a bit of fear as well, after all, only 50 years have passed since another aggressive imperialist Asian nation tried to invade us, and I believe it's left a bit of a scar, and we have a mixed relationship with our next door neighbours (Indonesia and Malaysia).

Let's just say, apart from NZ, we're the odd ones out in the region, and we're a living reminder of the colonial past.

[identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com 2008-09-04 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
What there be less fear if it was the US instead of China?

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[identity profile] danamaree.livejournal.com 2008-09-04 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Oh believe you me, there is plenty of US hate around in my country, they practically had to lock down Sydney when Bush came to visit because of the protests.

[identity profile] hemlock-sholes.livejournal.com 2008-09-04 05:51 am (UTC)(link)


Paranoid is in the eye of the beholder. I don't think it was a paranoid discussion.

As for you last comment, I see you equate Nazi Germany with occidental culture?
That's quite strange...

[identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com 2008-09-04 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
That's quite strange...

Privy, you're saying Germany isn't part of the Occident? Or that the Nazi super-race theory isn't a part of Western civilization?
Basically... err, why do you say that?

Japan, for all that it is different from the continental Asian countries is still very Oriental, wouldn't you say? They had a super-race theory as well, you know.

[identity profile] hemlock-sholes.livejournal.com 2008-09-04 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
No more or less than Judaism is.

The Aryan super-race theory is, what, 200 years old?
My roots, at least, are considerably older than that.

I don't understand what your point about Japan means.

[identity profile] hemlock-sholes.livejournal.com 2008-09-04 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, since Judaism is one of the pillars of Western Civilization (Greek Philosophy and Roman Law being the others), I'd say Judaism is MORE a part of Occidental Culture than Nazism.

[identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com 2008-09-04 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
Can't say Jews are deeply appreciated for it.

[identity profile] hemlock-sholes.livejournal.com 2008-09-04 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
[tongue-in-cheek]

In what sci-fi book/movie/series are the younger races EVER appreciate towards the older, wiser ones?

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[identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com 2008-09-04 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
Right... and Judaism doesn't have a super-race theory... Puh-lease.

My point about Japan is that, it's wrong or at the very least mistaken, to attribute essentialist differences when the only difference between cultures... is culture and that neither are static or, you know, that different from each other... especially with globalization which is turning everything into shallow consumer-culture.

You know, last night when I said everyone here is racist and you very snippily added including you[me], you really didn't have to... obviously I'm biased towards the place in which I grew up and the culture that I live in... still doesn't mean that the "dominant" culture is better or that cultural imperialism is of the good or should go unchallenged with regard to aspects that it marginalizes.